Upgrading to an aluminum rad
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Brads70
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Upgrading to an aluminum rad
Hi everyone spring is here and so is overheating.I'm currently running a stock 440 with 22" 3 row with factory shroud. I'm looking to upgrade to a 26" aluminium radiator in my '67 Charger. Has anyone bought a Champion, I'm looking at a 3 row or 4 row. The reviews sound good but I'm also wondering about the cost of import charges. Locally all I can get is either a cross flow type {I prefer the upright look} or A Griffin two row.
Any help would be appreciated.
Any help would be appreciated.
charger67- Posts : 8
Join date : 2015-06-04
Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad
Thought about running an electric fan? I overheat in any weather so I run the electric and it keeps right around 180
Ragtacker- Posts : 2949
Join date : 2016-01-09
Age : 69
Location : Victoria
Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad
Are you running just the electric and no mechanical. Shroud or no. Mine will run 170 all day long on the highway but gets up to 210 or higher sitting in traffic.
charger67- Posts : 8
Join date : 2015-06-04
Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad
Running both with a shroud
Ragtacker- Posts : 2949
Join date : 2016-01-09
Age : 69
Location : Victoria
Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad
Is it a pusher, the problem for me with the 67 is the headlight motors restrict air flow already
charger67- Posts : 8
Join date : 2015-06-04
Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad
Ah ya I guess they would. I see alot of guys now using twin electric fans and no fan blade, makes me go hmmm
Ragtacker- Posts : 2949
Join date : 2016-01-09
Age : 69
Location : Victoria
Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad
That's what I'm considering, a 26" four row with twin fans and full shroud. When I thought about it, no modern cars use mechanical fans any more.
charger67- Posts : 8
Join date : 2015-06-04
Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad
I copied this from another site I frequent.... thought it might be useful to some over here too?
This is a good read.....
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,60599.0.html
Well SOB ! > I just took off my 440 source water pump housing and compared it to the stock cast iron and the lower passages are literally half of the cast iron housing. I can't even get my little finger through the passage, on the stock cast iron I can get my thumb in there with ease. There are huge restrictions in the 440 source water pump housing ! Now to be fair I won't know how much this matters till I get it back together and test it out.
I have tried 4 different rads, 3 different water pumps and 5 different fans ( mechanical and electric) chasing down my overheating issue!
On another note.... not impressed with Milodon either , the end all be all water pump from them shows signs of leaking out the hole..... it's only 2 years old!
This is a good read.....
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,60599.0.html
Well SOB ! > I just took off my 440 source water pump housing and compared it to the stock cast iron and the lower passages are literally half of the cast iron housing. I can't even get my little finger through the passage, on the stock cast iron I can get my thumb in there with ease. There are huge restrictions in the 440 source water pump housing ! Now to be fair I won't know how much this matters till I get it back together and test it out.
I have tried 4 different rads, 3 different water pumps and 5 different fans ( mechanical and electric) chasing down my overheating issue!
On another note.... not impressed with Milodon either , the end all be all water pump from them shows signs of leaking out the hole..... it's only 2 years old!
Brads70- Posts : 318
Join date : 2015-01-20
Location : Barrie, Ontario
Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad
My current set up....
Fans are from here, they move a TON of air, best I've tried yet! Met them at Carlisle, good people!
http://rainbowproductsonline.com/new-products.php
http://rainbowproductsonline.com/shroud-fan-assembly/cf-item20017-pusher.php
Fans are from here, they move a TON of air, best I've tried yet! Met them at Carlisle, good people!
http://rainbowproductsonline.com/new-products.php
http://rainbowproductsonline.com/shroud-fan-assembly/cf-item20017-pusher.php
Brads70- Posts : 318
Join date : 2015-01-20
Location : Barrie, Ontario
Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad
I have the 3 row 22" with the twin fan and shroud from champion. Have it installed but the car isn't on the road. As for import charges, I think they use USPS if I remember correctly. So the price they quote for shipping is what you pay. At least that was my case. I'll see if I can find my invoice.
Churchy- Posts : 54
Join date : 2015-01-23
Age : 48
Location : Belmont, Ontario
Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad
Found the shipping for mine. Bought through Ledfoot racing in California, the cost was $68.95 USD through USPS to my door.
Churchy- Posts : 54
Join date : 2015-01-23
Age : 48
Location : Belmont, Ontario
Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad
I have a friend with a blown 340, that 3'' belt in front would not allow for a fan so he found double electric fans off an 80's Ply or Dodge V6 and it works super, never has to put the fan on high speed even.Ragtacker wrote:Ah ya I guess they would. I see alot of guys now using twin electric fans and no fan blade, makes me go hmmm
JGL- Posts : 4619
Join date : 2015-01-21
Age : 71
Location : Dieppe NB
Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad
Hey guys, I've just received a Northern performance 2 row up right with with 16" fan and relay kit, through a local supplier, nice looking unit, he runs one in his 70 Cuda with a 600 hp 440 , thanks for your help
charger67- Posts : 8
Join date : 2015-06-04
Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad
Can you get us some pics charger67? I'd love to see what their rads look like compared to a champion. How was pricing compared to the Champion?
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Keith Mopar- Posts : 1444
Join date : 2015-01-20
Age : 65
Location : Calgary AB
Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad
Sure Keith, I'm just putting it in this week, Price for the rad was 639.00 total Canadian, nice looking unit. Also picked up a 16" fan, relay kit, tranny cooler, electric choke kit. I'm picking up the polished 15" overflow bottle tomorrow. Hoping to have it all together on the weekend. My buddy also picked one up for his 66 Monaco 440, I'll try to get some pics of his set up too.
charger67- Posts : 8
Join date : 2015-06-04
Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad
charger67 are you from out west too?
JGL- Posts : 4619
Join date : 2015-01-21
Age : 71
Location : Dieppe NB
Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad
Thanks for the update charger67. I'd love to see some pics and let us know how well it cools with the electric fan.
I'll be looking for a rad for my 65 Cuda soon and was looking at a champion rad but still undecided.
I'll be looking for a rad for my 65 Cuda soon and was looking at a champion rad but still undecided.
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Keith Mopar- Posts : 1444
Join date : 2015-01-20
Age : 65
Location : Calgary AB
Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad
Hi JGL, I'm from Corbeil On. 3.5hrs west Ottawa
charger67- Posts : 8
Join date : 2015-06-04
Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad
charger67 wrote:Hi JGL, I'm from Corbeil On. 3.5hrs west Ottawa
Beautiful area! I've just about had enough of Barrie, crazy property taxes and too many people!
Brads70- Posts : 318
Join date : 2015-01-20
Location : Barrie, Ontario
Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad
Taxes aren't great here either but I love living the country, and within 5kms of my house there's at least 10 really nice Mopars , including an original A12 SuperBee. My best friend live across the road with a 72 Challenger and 76 Swinger. His brother next door has 69 383 4spd Bee. Life's good.
charger67- Posts : 8
Join date : 2015-06-04
Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad
charger67 wrote:Taxes aren't great here either but I love living the country, and within 5kms of my house there's at least 10 really nice Mopars , including an original A12 SuperBee. My best friend live across the road with a 72 Challenger and 76 Swinger. His brother next door has 69 383 4spd Bee. Life's good.
Sounds Great! Good for you! 2thumbs up
Brads70- Posts : 318
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Location : Barrie, Ontario
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