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Upgrading to an aluminum rad

Post by charger67 on Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:02 pm

Hi everyone spring is here and so is overheating.I'm currently running a stock 440 with 22" 3 row with factory shroud. I'm looking to upgrade to a 26" aluminium radiator in my '67 Charger. Has anyone bought a Champion, I'm looking at a 3 row or 4 row. The reviews sound good but I'm also wondering about the cost of import charges. Locally all I can get is either a cross flow type {I prefer the upright look} or A Griffin two row.
Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad

Post by Ragtacker on Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:04 pm

Thought about running an electric fan? I overheat in any weather so I run the electric and it keeps right around 180

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Post by charger67 on Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:32 pm

Are you running just the electric and no mechanical. Shroud or no. Mine will run 170 all day long on the highway but gets up to 210 or higher sitting in traffic.

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Post by Ragtacker on Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:46 pm

Running both with a shroud

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Post by charger67 on Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:53 pm

Is it a pusher, the problem for me with the 67 is the headlight motors restrict air flow already

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Post by Ragtacker on Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:21 pm

Ah ya I guess they would. I see alot of guys now using twin electric fans and no fan blade, makes me go hmmm

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Post by charger67 on Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:00 am

That's what I'm considering, a 26" four row with twin fans and full shroud. When I thought about it, no modern cars use mechanical fans any more.

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Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad

Post by Brads70 on Fri Jun 03, 2016 4:50 am

I copied this from another site I frequent.... thought it might be useful to some over here too?


This is a good read.....
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,60599.0.html

Well SOB ! >Sad I just took off my 440 source water pump housing and compared it to the stock cast iron and the lower passages are literally half of the cast iron housing. I can't even get my little finger through the passage, on the stock cast iron I can get my thumb in there with ease. There are huge restrictions in the 440 source water pump housing ! Now to be fair I won't know how much this matters till I get it back together and test it out.
I have tried 4 different rads, 3 different water pumps and 5 different fans ( mechanical and electric) chasing down my overheating issue!
On another note.... not impressed with Milodon either , the end all be all water pump from them shows signs of leaking out the hole..... it's only 2 years old! Surprised


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Post by Brads70 on Fri Jun 03, 2016 4:55 am

My current set up....
Fans are from here, they move a TON of air, best I've tried yet! Met them at Carlisle, good people!
http://rainbowproductsonline.com/new-products.php
http://rainbowproductsonline.com/shroud-fan-assembly/cf-item20017-pusher.php



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Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad

Post by Churchy on Wed Jun 08, 2016 4:25 pm

I have the 3 row 22" with the twin fan and shroud from champion. Have it installed but the car isn't on the road. As for import charges, I think they use USPS if I remember correctly. So the price they quote for shipping is what you pay. At least that was my case. I'll see if I can find my invoice.

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Post by Churchy on Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:51 am

Found the shipping for mine. Bought through Ledfoot racing in California, the cost was $68.95 USD through USPS to my door.

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Post by JGL on Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:55 am

Ragtacker wrote:Ah ya I guess they would. I see alot of guys now using twin electric fans and no fan blade, makes me go hmmm
I have a friend with a blown 340, that 3'' belt in front would not allow for a fan so he found double electric fans off an 80's Ply or Dodge V6 and it works super, never has to put the fan on high speed even.

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Post by charger67 on Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:48 pm

Hey guys, I've just received a Northern performance 2 row up right with with 16" fan and relay kit, through a local supplier, nice looking unit, he runs one in his 70 Cuda with a 600 hp 440 , thanks for your help

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Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad

Post by Keith Mopar on Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:49 am

Can you get us some pics charger67? I'd love to see what their rads look like compared to a champion. How was pricing compared to the Champion?

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Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad

Post by charger67 on Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:56 pm

Sure Keith, I'm just putting it in this week, Price for the rad was 639.00 total Canadian, nice looking unit. Also picked up a 16" fan, relay kit, tranny cooler, electric choke kit. I'm picking up the polished 15" overflow bottle tomorrow. Hoping to have it all together on the weekend. My buddy also picked one up for his 66 Monaco 440, I'll try to get some pics of his set up too.

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Post by JGL on Mon Jul 04, 2016 6:14 pm

charger67 are you from out west too?

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Post by Keith Mopar on Wed Jul 06, 2016 8:21 am

Thanks for the update charger67. I'd love to see some pics and let us know how well it cools with the electric fan.
I'll be looking for a rad for my 65 Cuda soon and was looking at a champion rad but still undecided.

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Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad

Post by charger67 on Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:33 pm

Hi JGL, I'm from Corbeil On. 3.5hrs west Ottawa

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Re: Upgrading to an aluminum rad

Post by Brads70 on Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:34 am

charger67 wrote:Hi JGL, I'm from Corbeil On. 3.5hrs west Ottawa

Beautiful area! I've just about had enough of Barrie, crazy property taxes and too many people!

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Post by charger67 on Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:04 pm

Taxes aren't great here either but I love living the country, and within 5kms of my house there's at least 10 really nice Mopars , including an original A12 SuperBee. My best friend live across the road with a 72 Challenger and 76 Swinger. His brother next door has 69 383 4spd Bee. Life's good.

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Post by Brads70 on Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:48 pm

charger67 wrote:Taxes aren't great here either but I love living the country, and within 5kms of my house there's at least 10 really nice Mopars , including an original A12 SuperBee. My best friend live across the road with a 72 Challenger and 76 Swinger. His brother next door has 69 383 4spd Bee. Life's good.

Sounds Great! Good for you! 2thumbs up

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