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Post by JGL on Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:16 pm

Please--Watch this video from Fox...if your CAR IS OLDER THAN 2012 you need to AVOID THE NEW E15 GASOLINE.
Most car companies including Ford, BMW, VW, Toyota, Honda, Kia, Mercedes, and Chrysler will not honor the warranty on your car if you use this new gasoline!!!

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/2000862202001/

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Post by Keith Mopar on Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:37 pm

Good reminder, it's been on the news here about using E15.
The thing is only one gas station is selling it now.

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Post by JGL on Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:53 pm

Keith Mopar wrote:Good reminder, it's been on the news here about using E15.
The thing is only one gas station is selling it now.
Yeah that story came out a few years ago but I figured that maybe somebody did not know about it.

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Post by anlauto on Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:59 pm

Hey...at least the price of gas is cheap cheers

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Post by JGL on Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:54 am

Unfortunately it is on its way up again so it may be cheap now but for how long?

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Post by Brads70 on Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:21 pm

I use Shell premium as it has NO ethanol . ( in Canada)

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Post by JGL on Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:32 pm

As far as I'm concerned, Shell has the best premium gas and Irving is next. Oh that's right is Irving in Ontario? I know they do all the Maritimes and at least Maine.

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Post by crankycrow on Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:52 am

ESSO seems to be the best on pei and there is no alcohol in premium fuel of any breed here .

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Post by JGL on Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:56 am

Too bad premium is not the same price as regular. I wonder how long our engines would last on regular?
I guess that depends a lot on the right foot.


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Post by Keith Mopar on Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:41 am

Remember when Premium was 4 cents a gallon more than reg. Now it's 16 cents a litre more than reg! I think they are screwing us guys that need the premium gas.

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Post by JGL on Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:10 am

And there are 4.54 litres in a gallon, so that should be about 1 to1.5 cents per litre.WOW

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Post by smoken340 on Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:23 pm

I only use Petro Canada, ultra 94. However I have been thinking of changing to Shell V Power premium 91 grade.

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Post by Grumpy427 on Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:31 am

Here in Sask i have had the best luck with Co-op premium gas. Thats what we dynoed with on my last session.

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Post by 71ScatPac on Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:00 pm

Brads70 wrote:I use Shell premium as it has NO ethanol . ( in Canada)
Yup Shell 91, I used to use Petro 94. My car likes the 91 and its the last one with no Ethanol. I swear my RAM 1500 gets better mileage with it too. Its real gas and you can always add Octane Booster if you have that concern.

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Post by JGL on Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:56 pm

I usually use either Shell 91 or Co-op. My engine only has about 350 HP and is mostly stock, I even tried mid-grade for a while and it ran ok with no pinging, then my engine builder told me to use only the best stuff available, so I listened.

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Post by smoken340 on Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:54 am

Unfortunate for me, but the way my engine was built ( I didn't build it myself, so the specs are unknown to me ) it barely runs good on the 91 grade. This is why I've been using Petro 94. Does anyone use any sort of an Octane boost ?

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Post by Woodie on Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:08 am

smoken340 wrote:Unfortunate for me, but the way my engine was built ( I didn't build it myself, so the specs are unknown to me ) it barely runs good on the 91 grade. This is why I've been using Petro 94. Does anyone use any sort of an Octane boost ?


Dan, Doing a "Cranking" compression test is a good idea to see what cylinder pressure you have, from there you can adjust timing curve to compensate if the engine is "Pinging" Also NEVER use fuel with "Ethanol" only Shell's V-Power 91 has Zero Ethanol. Ethanol will destroy your fuel system, eat the gaskets in the carburetor and leaves a "White residue" in the fuel bowels (Ethanol and moisture = Cauliflower). As for Octane boost, I like to buy a couple of cans of race fuel (Klotz 110) every year and mix a few gallons per tank. Big time noticeable power, Detonation or "Pinging" is the death of all deaths for your engine.

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Post by smoken340 on Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:18 am

Hey Dave, my car runs ok on the 91 grade, but there is a huge noticeable difference on the 94 grade, not so much in pinging but in power, maybe it's my imagination, but I do feel a real difference . If I use the 91 will the octane boost help ?

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Post by Woodie on Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:25 am

smoken340 wrote:Hey Dave, my car runs ok on the 91 grade, but there is a huge noticeable difference on the 94 grade, not so much in pinging but in power, maybe it's my imagination, but I do feel a real difference . If I use the 91 will the octane boost help ?
Octane boost is a band aid approach.(my opinion). A good "Tune" is what your 340 is looking for. Best option is stay away from Ethanol fuels at all costs. Have that baby set up to run on 91 Octane. If you need more power best bang for the buck is swapping out the gears for 3.91:1 That's a lot cheaper than Cam swaps and replacing the fuel system once its garbo. Cylinder pressure and Iron heads are the root cause.

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Post by smoken340 on Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:47 am

Woodie wrote:
Octane boost is a band aid approach.(my opinion). A good "Tune" is what your 340 is looking for. Best option is stay away from Ethanol fuels at all costs. Have that baby set up to run on 91 Octane. If you need more power best bang for the buck is swapping out the gears for 3.91:1 That's a lot cheaper than Cam swaps and replacing the fuel system once it garbo.

You see this is why I need help from those who know about these sort of things. I never really was into speed and racing when I was younger.
This is what I know about my car.

Differential is an 8 3/4 with a 742 casing, it has upgraded Richmond gears and an Auburn brand limited slip unit. I have no idea what the gear ratio is.

The engine is a 1970, 340.with 0.30 over pistons, a street thumper cam, j heads with 2.02 intake and 1.94 exhaust valves. I'm running a 600 cfm Holley carb on a Edlebrock performer RPM Air-gap dual plane intake.

Transmission is a 727 with a B&M 2800 stall torque.

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Post by JGL on Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:57 am

sure beats me, I think. I have a 360 with 30 over, shaved heads that give 9 to 1 compression, 1.88/1.60 valves, no porting, 650 eddie, RPM air gap, shortie headers, 2 1/2 inch exhaust, open 8 1/4 rear with 2.74 gears soon to be 3.55 gears, stock bottom end, cam was bought with piston kit and was said to be high performance but I can't prove it. Rated at about 350 HP. I had guys say 325 and others 365.

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Post by Woodie on Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:02 am

That 'Thumper Cam" is not the best choice for that engine. Sounds good but WAY to much cylinder pressure. Those cams are to be used for "Building Cylinder Pressure" ie, taking a low compression 318 or 340 and manipulating the cylinder pressure. There are way better cams for your car... But with a good tune we can fix that. As for the gears, its very simple to find out what gears are in the diff. Jack up the rear of the car. Position the "Valve stem" at 12 O'clock have the wife watch as you rotate the drive shaft until the Valve Stem goes all the way around once. Count the number of turns on the driveshaft. ie: 4 turns of the driveshaft to One turn of the tire= 4.10:1 If the shaft turns 3 times... 3.23:1 Smile


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Post by smoken340 on Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:19 am

All the information that I stated were given to me by the guy that I bought the car from. I have not retrieved any numbers from the engine or any other parts of the drive train. So Assuming that the guy wasn't shitting me (and it's not a later motor), how do I know the guy didn't install the cam for just that reason ? As you said the car sounds assome, it has a very lumpy idle. I was told that he used to take it to the track (St Thomas) and I'm sure he did as I don't see any other reason why the car would have the line locks installed.


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Post by Woodie on Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:05 am

smoken340 wrote:All the information that I stated were given to me by the guy that I bought the car from. I have not retrieved any numbers from the engine or any other parts of the drive train. So Assuming that the guy wasn't shitting me (and it's not a later motor), how do I know the guy didn't install the cam for just that reason ? As you said the car sounds assume, it has a very lumpy idle. I was told that he used to take it to the track (St Thomas) and I'm sure he did as I don't see any other reason why the car would have the line locks installed.


Well ok then...... Not sure where you want to go with this. If it were my "Mystery" motor I would tune it to run on 91 Octane V-power and gear it up to motor along. (Which is what you have already)  I have seen,heard and driven many 450-600hp mills that don't compare to a properly tuned engine with 100hp less, and the correct gearing. A good tune will prolong  an engine's life for many years, the ring life and the bearings will thank you Smile


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Post by smoken340 on Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:22 am

Well Dave, if I have anything to do with it you will have your opportunity to see my car this coming summer and if your real lucky (lol) I may even let you turn a wrench or two on it Cool

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